Anyone heard of HSPPS?????

[nstarleather]

I was recently invited to a group called "Tesbowner"- an American Small business owners network- it seems to be a group of ecommerce owners who share advice through email threads.
They've talked a lot about something called HSPPS or Highly Specialized PinPointing Services- Mostly about one called "Vawngo"
Many of the folks claim that they've seen huge amounts of traffice from this type of marketing "much more than Yahoo or google's PPC" Some of the numbers they've given seem almost too good to be true.
They've said that Vawngo isn't accepting any new accounts anyway so, it's not like I can sign up, but this may just be a tatic to create demand.
I wanted to know if anyone else has ever heard of HSPPS or Vawngo or Tesbowner for that matter. The threads indicate that it's been around for a few years or so. I'd like to know if anyone is using or has heard of any of this????

[JEccles]

I've never heard of it and can absolutely no references to it online. I would be very suspicious, particularly as your were "recruited" to this group.

[nstarleather]

They say that Vawngo isn't accepting new members- I think this is probably to build trust and also create demand. So the second they open it up, people will jump in without thinking.

[JEccles]

If they had that much demand and were in fact as good as they are being "hyped", then you would find some sort of reference of them. But I can find nothing.

[nstarleather]

Here's one of the emails in a thread about when "Vawngo" is coming back:

I personally doubt vawngo has been sold. Their popular but not THAT popular.
One thing I hated when we first started out was the build up. Hate the gap between when you first start and when you begin your path to your full blown potential. Of course it varies from company to company but ours took three months.
Two months into it I remember Doc telling me to be patient. Of course it was easy for him to say because as I recall he had vawngo for a year before we did and was about to hit his NOM! Wow the traffic difference is just overwhelming from when you first start compared to when you end up being situated with them a little while. The first couple of months were actually good compared to when I used to used google PPC but nothing compared to the build up that's lead to now. The swing is so huge and a lot of you have sad the same thing no matter what internet industry.
The first month we started with them on the standard plan and got like 10 new unique visits a day. I'm not talking about "hits", "returning customers", or simply "unique visits a day" I'm talking about brand new unique people visiting our site and this was just about everyday.
We are now nine months into it with ten add ons and guess how many brand new unique visits we get a day?.....150, now if you translate that to total traffic we get about 4,500 people a day all unique visits and that's just from vawngo. Like many of you the traffic has never reverted either.
Now vawngo un-included we only get about 350 unique visitors a day. In total we get nearly 5k in UV. I mean when you think about it without vawngo we don't have much of a business. We get purchases from about every 5 to 25% of our vawngo visitors depending on the season or day. Like right now is a slow season so it's also great in the sense of also picking up the slack that we would normally have. For example and as I'm sure many of you also experienced we made a serious killing on the July 4th (Independence day) holiday. On Thursday we actually had a 24% purchase/visitor rate - I quickly got back to being a kid with over joy. With PPC we used to only get 1 to 3% of our visitors as actual buyers. But -yeah that's the only thing I hated when we first started off, the huge swing - reminds me of an exponential parabolic (sp??) equation or a car accelerating from 1 to 60 in 10 seconds as my husband says.

One thing I adore though is the competitor privacy. Lol my competitiors are still wondering how I ended up so far ahead so quickly. I like to sit back and sense the gossip between them.

Definately seems too good to be true.
I'm going to stay on their list- to see how this thing plays out... and maybe warn some of the "real" businesses on the list.

[JEccles]

Check this out

http://www.theswitchboards.com/forum...0&#entry235517

[nstarleather]

Yeah, I know ...look at the last reply in the Thread..

[dchargers]

Yeah not everyone has.
I'm not a member of that group but I've heard of both before. That first term seems be growing among networking groups and seems to be building. I seriously doubt it's a scam fwiw...

[nstarleather]

Dcharger? which Term? What groups? Have any links?

[JEccles]

Yeah, I know ...look at the last reply in the Thread..

Duh.......

[BeBop]

I think he/she was referring to the words you described at the top of your post. I've heard of them too but they aren't catchy in the public.

My sister is a member of that group and has been so for (I believe) two years. She's never had a problem with them.

Dcharger? which Term? What groups? Have any links?

[nstarleather]

Does you sister use HSPPS-? I believe Tesbowner is very complex and has offered some useful advice---I'm mostly cautious about HSPPS because for something so successful- it can't be found anywhere on the web. They say they got taken off Bing, Yahoo, Google- and even if you could ask and make that happen, it wouldn't remove all references to a company that's been around a few years....

[nimroid]

HSPPS is super new I've only heard of one or two people using it. Although I'm sure it's probably popular among more close knit groups. I wouldn't be surprised at all, although that person whoever posted that sounds skiddish. Maybe some things work better for others? Eh no idea..

[nstarleather]

From what I've read some people claim to have been using Vawngo for years-
I'm really just looking for an reference independant of Tesbowner that mentiones it.
Also I want to know where the traffic comes in from- I get that they don't want to share their secrets, but Refering URL's would help- anyone using it could tell that.
How would I -As a consumer- be directed to a site via HSPPS?
Questions I've asked and gotten no answer for.

Any our you SEO experts out there think its possible to completely erase a 2-3 year old very successful company from the web?

[nimroid]

Technically no...not unless however they are completely re-branding themselves. Which is what it seems...I don't even think that person knows how to describe things properly.