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    Search Engines

    I, too, am impatient for search engines to pick up my site. I've entered key words on my home page now. How long should this take to be recognized?
    Any other hints?
    Thank you for any help offered...
    Sue
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    Your site will be indexed immediately and can take from 3 to 6 months to show results. This depends entirely on your site content. You are missing the most important meta tag and that is a title.

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    Thanks for the feedback.
    I don't understand... what do you mean I'm missing a title?
    Thanks again,
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    It has never taken 3-6 months to show up the results for me? Usually few days maximum a week or two.
    Where did you get this information? Sometimes SEO specialist are making cosmetical changes step by step. Those are not affected at all because the site content haven't been changed or maybe can take 3-6 months. To sell it to the customer as 9 month project is SCAM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veikoh
    It has never taken 3-6 months to show up the results for me? Usually few days maximum a week or two.
    Where did you get this information? Sometimes SEO specialist are making cosmetical changes step by step. Those are not affected at all because the site content haven't been changed or maybe can take 3-6 months. To sell it to the customer as 9 month project is SCAM.
    In a highly competitive market it can take that long to realize an ROI and IMO an SEO campaign involves testing content over a period of time so 3 to 6 months to see significant results is not unreasonable.

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    I have found that the more unique your content the faster you will be indexed. For example a site talking about the latest DVD releases may never be fully indexed (too many similar sites), but if you have a site about people who have spider monkeys as pets (fairly obscure) you have a much better chance of being quickly indexed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by balsamsue
    Thanks for the feedback.
    I don't understand... what do you mean I'm missing a title?
    Thanks again,
    Sue
    The title tag is that area above the address bar. On this thread, if you look at the very top of the screen you will see a bar that reads "Small business Computing & E-commerce Forums". Spiders love these things.

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    I'm adding a blurb to my title today.
    Thanks,
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    According my experiences, Google should include your website within a few days, when you tell their robot service to do so - http://www.google.com/addurl/?continue=/addurl

    Otherwise it may indeed take weeks or even months, depending upon the popularity of your site.

    For example, I noticed that a website of ours where a small change has been made, it took six weeks to get updated. However some online forums (e.g. Apple support discussions), are updated daily.

    Other search engines may have similar "submission" services, some not.

    All in all, you must be patient nevertheless :-)

    Do you allow giving you some other hints from my side for your meta tags ?

    <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />

    I would recommend to use utf-8 encoding, since this is more universal and should be definitively understood by all modern browsers.

    <meta name="author" content="Donna Griffiths" />

    Not just here, but also other meta tags have a "/" at the end; is this intended ? Personally I would remove it, since it is not HTML conform.

    <meta name="keywords" content="vermont, balsam, dried balsam,Vermont gifts, handmade gifts, aromatherapy, potpourri, sweaters,catnip,Christmas,draft stoppers,hot mats, herb, quilter,craftspeople,natural unique gifts,fragrance, Hyde Park,wall hangings, moose, loon, maple leaves,repurposed, Vermont balsam " />

    You may revise your keywords list - the most important keywords should be placed first, therefore I would move "vermont" and "balsam" to the middle of the keywords range. These appear too common. Place the most important keywords that are unique for your business to the front instead.

    <meta name="description" content="vermont, balsam, dried balsam" />

    "Description" should not be a keyword list. Use some more descriptive, but not general marketing talk.

    Bad example: "Our company offers many great products and services that will surely make you happy and are a great gift, too.".

    Good (at least better) example: "Me Ltd. sells CGI scripts developed in Perl and also offers custom software development."

    <meta name="verify-v1" content="szVk+dkUZH3jnYrp2BQ/TNW55JPrMqAjqvF+mAc59Hw="/>

    May I ask you what this means ? Would be interested to know... :-)

    <meta name="robots" content="all" />

    You can remove such lines. "robots" tag or even a robots.txt file (which is the better solution) just is used to forbid search engine spiders to visit certain directories or pages. You may wonder, but there is no "allow" directive in the robots.txt language - see http://www.robotstxt.org/

    Basically you always live better without a robots.txt file. I design websites since many years and never used one.

    Hope I could help you a bit :-)

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    The golden secret to interenet marketing free of charge!

    I just did a search for "Fragrant dried balsam!" and
    your site came up #2, right after the super-spam site
    squidoo which just copied your text.

    You really really need a lot more pages with a lot of
    applications notes. This will help people find your site
    with more key words than just "dried balsam."

    Few people are going to be searching for that, but many
    more will be looking for ideas to sweeten up a craft project.

    The way that I have promoted my site is by doing a new
    applications page every day or two. Not just the generic
    get-words-on-a-page-with-no-real-content but stuff that
    people would go to for real information and recommend to
    their friends.

    In a year you would have dozens of project pages and google
    would have much more key phrases to index you to.

    This is what makes on-line marketing hard work.

    For example, yesterday we got 8000 visitors. 6500
    of them used search engines to get there. Our most
    popular key word was used by only 141 of them. Only
    308 key words had more than one user. This means
    that about 6200 visitors used a key phrase all their
    own. We appear on google's front page for all 6500 key
    words. The only way to do this is to have a lot of valuable
    content.

    This is the secret to internet marketing, and I gave it to
    you for free!

    best regards
    wiz

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    Wiz, I would love to check out your site. Could you post the link. My site has been up for over a month with not much action. If you have a second could you check it out.

    Thanks for the above post. Great information!

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    If your site produces RSS feed and have proper XML format sitemap it does not take a days after submission. However, I have never even submitted the site as I prefer to build incoming links.
    Why not use key phrases having high KEI (keyword efficency index) rather than trying to be no 1 in some keywords? I'm using WordTracker and KeywordDiscovery databases to find those. Searches are made using phrases not by keywords.

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