Sounds like these guys are nothing but trouble. So why have you not cancelled your account or closed the account they bill you throught and open up a new on or report them to your bank or CC company as fraudulent charges.
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Sounds like these guys are nothing but trouble. So why have you not cancelled your account or closed the account they bill you throught and open up a new on or report them to your bank or CC company as fraudulent charges.
That is exactly what I did. I sent a registered letter to the Aria Financial who set up my merchant account asking that it be closed. Also instructed my bank to stop paying the fees. Next thing I know I get a call from a collection agency saying that I owe $250. I ask what for and they got very rude. I called the co. I sent the letter to and was told that they had nothing to do with the merchant account although they set it up. They referred me to Cardservice Int. When I called them they said I had signed a contract for a year and these were fees I owed for closing my account early. I did not get a copy of the contract when I signed it, so they faxed it to me. I did indeed sign it the night I signed up for Clickincome. I asked that they send me a breakdown of the fees. They never did. I paid the total to get the collection agency off my back. I have also canceled all other services that were charging fees. I asked Clickincome to close my account, however, the site is still open, with a note posted by me that my store is closed.
Heidi, Thanks for the encouraging words. I am trying to do just that but I think it is a crime for these people to get away with this. However, I do believe in carma. What goes around comes around! And God don't like ugly! ;-)
It's a shame you are having such a terrible time with this company. I have no experience with them so I can't comment on them.
I would just say, get as much back as you can, then start concentrating on your business and put all that energy into making money. I know it can be frustrating. In the end it will all be worth it when you achieve your goal.
That is so crazy!!! It's obvious that this companu is a scam, and how can they NOT see that???
ummm. are we talking about "great products" from click club?????????? They have nothing but junk, just so you know---oh! I'm pretty sure you already knew that....
ummm. are we still talking about clickincome??? because whether you ask for refund or not---they give you crappy service anyway. so what's your point exactly???? i wasn't asking for refund because i know with this kind of company, they will not about to give our money back---they're gready...that's why they do their BEST not to deal with us, by ignoring us totally. So who would want to stick with this company??????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????Quote:
Originally Posted by Internet Master
i'm sorry to hear that. i better check all my bills connected to clickincome. i already cancelled my account, and thru authorize.net account. is there any other ones????? this company just made me a worry freak, because they just love charging all kind, without our knowledge! it is so frustrating.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluejay
what goes around...comes around!! i definitely agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluejay
This company took $ 50K and delivered a bugged software according to this website http://www.eonegroupsucks.info.
I guess I should have did some research before my wife and I went to one of their seminars. I paid the $99 for the ability to buy things wholesale on "Clickclub". I found all 50 items I researched cheaper somewhere on the web than "my special wholesale price". Any suggestions on how I notify them that I want out. I only paid the $99, and I'm still inside my 3 days, unlike some of the other people that got roped into the $3995. I have a question for anyone out there that is in the Executive program, have you had success getting people to sign up for merchant accounts and the "free" websites?
Savajo -
I have sort of built a Web Site through click income. However I have been on/off active duty military an unable to utilize the service I purchased (Yet). I am dis-heartened to see these types of postings as I also purchased the executive package ($3995). I did not allow myself to purchase further help/assistance as I am savvy enough to deal with most of my own programmming. I was intending to utilize the credit card merchant account services. however, I never purchased this service because I was told by a Mike Syme (Clickincome Presenter) that I could use existing services with my Clickincome executive membership. I have recently been trying to contact clickincome (again) to assist me with my web building. The first scheduled appointment to modify and assist - Victor of clickincome never called. He called later and apologized, but I was not able to reschedule for my free counseling. I do believe Victor is now non-existent with the company. Today I am awaiting a call from CI - as they have locked me out of my account - yet they still take my money (Charge my Credit card). Yonder Alaska
My question to those still monitoring this forum is what did you expect from the program that you didn't get? Do you feel ashamed that you didn't take the time to read the contract? Or are you trying to get something for nothing? I've looked into Clickincome and have seen their reputation and have talked with their people. At the end of the day who's to say where the Karma will fall? Since this forum seems to thrive on the anonimity, I will refrain from divulging that information as well but come on people, what did you really expect?
My take on Clickincome is that they are an educational company first and a hosting and services provider second. I own a yahoo! store that I pay over $200 a month to keep running. Not to mention my designer and programming fees which set us back just under $20k. Now, we are looking to move to a more versatile system that allows us to take control and Clickincome seems like one of the best options out there. The seminar is not the place to make a final decision, the final decision should have been made before you got there and after you had a chance to look over their product.
I've seen companies that are the size of Clickincome with a lot worse records than what they have. But here's the simplest question to ask yourself: Do they provide what you need? We all know that all you're going to hear on the Internet and these types of forums is nothing but the negative. I was actually surprised to hear a couple of people chime in and stand up for them, so they must have some people that are loyal and willing to go to bat for them. So if they're trying to help people and are growing and experiencing pains in that process, well let me tell you, I know what that feels like. I've talked to only a couple of their representatives and I've been extremely pleased. So if they have what you need, go for it and put your heart and soul into it. Plain and simple.... best of luck to all out there trying to make the internet their new home business!
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Aria Financial, the collection agency, WNSI and other associated entities are all owned by the same crooked company of scam artists - Pangaea Group. Clickincome is a "sting" operation, in my opinion. Because it is based in Utah, given the laws of that state, nothing is going to be done about them, at least not until Utah law changes. Since Utah recently passed legislation that makes this sort of theft even easier to operate legally, that probably will never happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluejay
We attended one of their seminars out of curiosity. I had just retired from thirty years as a criminal investigator and was considering something small to do in my spare time. I was curious as to whether the operation was legitimate or not and what they were really selling. It was clear from the first hour or so, before the break, that they were selling more than these little websites and the drop-shipping crap, and I wanted to see what that was. I read one of their contracts during the break - people were lining up to sign, so it was easy enough to blend in. I was shocked at the contract, and knew these people were about to get hosed but good. After the break, we reconvened in the seminar room, even though it was only supposed to be for the people who had signed up. Here came the high pressure for the real product they were "selling" - the merchant accounts. The tip of the iceberg price was $2,500. Anybody can get a merchant account to run credit cards, including the basic equipment, for about $800 or so. Then, of course, their package has a ton of hidden costs and they just start piling on the charges. I had to cover my mouth so that the host wouldn't see me laughing when he assured the audience that they shouldn't worry, he could almost guarantee that everybody's credit, even if it wasn't real good, would be accepted. Listen folks, the only thing they want your credit application for is to get all your credit card, income and banking information so they can see how much cash and credit they can hose you for. It helps them manage their manpower - which suckers should be concentrated on because they have some money as opposed to other suckers with less or little resources. They also want to know when you've been drained so they can focus on newcomers with some money. Once they've drained your resources, they move you to a different category that is just for continued billing and collection harrassment.
Listen up, people: these things are like huge spider webs that people escape from either by being bankrupted or having their credit ruined by the scammer's private "collection agency" that probably doesn't follow federal consumer protection laws. When you give them your banking and credit card information, it's easy for them to find out what your card limits and your bank account balances are, and they don't stop until you're dry. Even if you try to cancel during the 72-hour cancellation period, you're still stuck because they will claim you didn't return the program binder or it wasn't in good condition, etc., and then continue to charge your accounts. Then they further try to indebt you to them even more by selling different levels of membership that cost thousands. It's endless. There's a reason they host the seminars on Friday nights - they want you to have as little time as possible to check on them through legitimate business and governmental resources during that 72-hour period, and those places aren't open on the weekends. If you call on Monday, you may not get answers until Tuesday or Wednesday, and by then it's too late. A dead give-away as to what they're up to is that at the Friday night seminar they repeatedly tell those who signed up during the break to NOT bring their binders to the Saturday morning meeting. That's because they don't want you to be able to turn it back in if you show up Saturday to cancel your contract. If I recall correctly, the contract even says you agree that it can only be returned by mail, although there may be law stating they have to take it from you in person if you present it to them unused within the 72-hour cancellation period.
It was about two years ago that we attended the seminar, and I looked into the company ownership and the company's other entities. It's all on the internet., folks. The answers are there. I run their names on the internet from time to time to see if they're still operating, just out of curiosity and with the hope that eventually the feds will shut them down. So far, sad to say, they're still running this scam, and they're certainly not the only ones out there doing this sort of thing. When people complain, they call them losers and tell them it's their fault they don't know what they're doing and that they are looking for something for nothing or just don't want to put in the effort to make a go of it.
Caveat emptor, people!!