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09-09-2009, 01:53 PM
The Old Sarge

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Originally Posted by siotw

Pulling meta data from DMOZ simply means that Google trusts the Meta Descriptions from DMOZ editors more than they do the site owners.

DMOZ does not have access to the sites META. The descriptions written by DMOZ editors are not carried as META in any code I know of.

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Originally Posted by siotw

Doesn't mean that getting a link in the directory will provide a huge boost in your rankings.

I never said it does and I don't believe it does.

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Originally Posted by siotw

It may help slightly, but not nearly as much as people think it does.

Correct. But Google still lends credibility to DMOZ ... as per my other post.

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Originally Posted by siotw

"And as long as human editors keep updating, it's not yet antiquated." Given the rate of the updates by overburdened editors, "yet" is arguable.

Do you have information you'd like to share on what that rate might be? I don't even DMOZ itself keeps track.

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Originally Posted by siotw

IMHO, DMOZ listings are a bit of "wives tale" on the Web. Don't waste your time fretting over how to get in.

Excellent advice. DMOZ is often "used" for purposes it never invisioned for itself and almost daily tries to set the record straight. Many webmasters don't seem to get that through their skulls.

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Originally Posted by siotw

If you really, really want to get in the Directory, the only logical way to do so without waiting for years is to become an Editor.

I disagree. If you want the best shot at getiting listed with DMOZ, make a site that meets DMOZ listing criteria and populate it with content usefull to your visitors. If your primary goal is e-commerce, your site better sell something not available on a million other sites.
09-09-2009, 02:47 PM
siotw

I misspoke about the meta data descriptions for DMOZ. I'm participating in about a half dozen other discussion on several other forums so I got crossed up on that. I apologize for the misinformation.

What I meant to say was that the DMOZ editors descriptions are more trusted than the Meta Descriptions from site owners in Google's eyes.

When I said that it "doesn't mean that getting a link in the directory will provide a huge boost in your rankings," for clarification, I wasn't accusing you of saying that, but merely pointing out that most people are looking for a listing in DMOZ for one reason and one reason only... better rankings. Agree/disagree?

I don't have specific numbers about the rate of updating, but in general, would it be fair to say that it's not done swiftly? At a measured pace? Or just really, really slowly?

To your last argument, saying to just "make a site that meets DMOZ listing criteria and populate it with content useful to your visitors" is overly simplified. Yes, your response is by the book, but the reality is there are thousands upon thousands of sites that meet that very critieria you outlined that are submitted to DMOZ that never even get sniffed at by DMOZ editors.

I know several DMOZ editors personally and have some experience with the submission process for clients. As an editor yourself, you might have a different take on the nature of DMOZ. You sound like one that really takes the responsibility seriously and are committed to being of service to your directory's community by allocating the time to do the job. As an outsider, I have a completely different perspective.

While Google admittedly still lends some authority to DMOZ listings, I don't believe it has anywhere near the impact on rankings that most "experts" claim it does, based on the delta in rankings from sites getting listed in DMOZ before and after.

Love the DMOZ, but it just ain't all what it's cracked up to be.
09-09-2009, 03:10 PM
roban

I want to thank you all for a very informative thread and especially for taking the time to answer individual points within a post.

I have 2 sites listed with DMOZ and I never submitted them. One is a site for theater for the learning disabled and the other is an arts council. I can only assume that the content was either unique or informative or both. If this is the case then DMOZ nust be scouring the web for interesting content or someone suggested the sites.
09-12-2009, 12:58 PM
The Old Sarge

Roban,

As an editor, I try to suggest any good site I happen to find. Of course most of them are not in my particular area or category so I have no control over the actual listing. The sites I find that DO fit one of my categories go into the que and are reviewed for listing as I find the time. The really good ones sometimes get listed on the spot.

Someone evidently found your sites worthwhile and some editor/s agreed. Good job!
11-09-2010, 02:40 AM
stiffen

I appreciate the purpose of Dmoz. Unhappily it fails at what it is intended to do. People using it for SEO are the only motivation it is even appropriate. And it is barely significant at with the intention of.
11-09-2010, 01:39 PM
The Old Sarge

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Originally Posted by stiffen

I appreciate the purpose of Dmoz. Unhappily it fails at what it is intended to do. People using it for SEO are the only motivation it is even appropriate. And it is barely significant at with the intention of.

And what exactly, in your estimation, was DMOZ intended to do?
11-11-2010, 01:36 AM
newbie2010

If the most 20 newly added links are listed, then every link is listed but when other also comes then other go out of list.
11-19-2010, 01:31 PM
disolmodo78

No matter the character of the site or the what products it carries. If you stock the vast majority of your product, that is not what is keeping you from being listed.
11-22-2010, 01:55 AM
macklam

It is a great thing to get listed on DMOZ. Your site will be considered as a reliable and reputed online business by the search engines.
11-30-2010, 02:29 PM
stiffenson

DMOZ is a renowned directory. Getting your site listed with this web directory is highly essential as search engines have a soft corner for it.
06-03-2011, 01:15 AM
nikyboye123

I comprehend the reason of DMOZ. Sad to tell, that it fails at what it is targeted to work on. People utilizing it for SEO are the main reason that it is associated. It is barely associated to that.
06-03-2011, 01:28 PM
The Old Sarge

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Originally Posted by nikyboye123

Sad to tell, that it [DMOZ] fails at what it is targeted to work on.

And what, in your estimation, is it targeted to work on?

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Originally Posted by nikyboye123

People utilizing it for SEO are the main reason that it is associated. It is barely associated to that.

Do you suppose that if people use hammers to peel apples or potatoes that the hammer is to blame?

DMOZ was never intended to be an SEO tool or listing service for webmasters. Like the hammer, if it's misused, the results will likely disappoint.
08-25-2011, 02:52 AM
zairevang142

I would like to make others know one thing from this forum that is DMOZ is another directory through which you can submit your website and increase your funds.
08-25-2011, 02:56 AM
zairevang142

Enlisting your website in DMOZ has not paid us back. DMOZ did not perform well and for that SEO techniques attached with this did not work out properly.
08-25-2011, 11:30 AM
The Old Sarge

Submitting your site to DMOZ may be on your list of SEO steps, but I assure you, it is not on DMOZ's. DMOZ is not, and never has been, a lsiting service or SEO tool.
08-28-2011, 10:02 AM
onuracun

I have submitted my web site to DMOZ, may be hundreds times but it hasn't been approved yet. It takes long long times
08-28-2011, 01:04 PM
The Old Sarge

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Originally Posted by onuracun

I have submitted my web site to DMOZ, may be hundreds times...

That is a direct violation of the rules and guidelines for submission. You're supposed to submit only once to the most appropriate category. By submitting "hundreds [of] times", you've likely caused your site to be banned for spamming the submission process.
08-30-2011, 06:22 AM
lballantynenc

It appears that there are a wide variety of directories out there that just draw their listings from DMOZ, and do not take outside submissions. So by having a DMOZ listing, my competitors have been automatically listed in lots of other directories that I can't get my site into.
08-31-2011, 01:39 AM
pedrodoyle224

Attainment to DMOZ is extremely hard. Not for the reason that they make it hard, but as they don't have sufficient editors. Once you submit it you need not remember that also.
08-31-2011, 10:35 AM
The Old Sarge

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Originally Posted by lballantynenc

It appears that there are a wide variety of directories out there that just draw their listings from DMOZ, and do not take outside submissions. So by having a DMOZ listing, my competitors have been automatically listed in lots of other directories that I can't get my site into.

DMOZ allows other sites to use DMOZ listings. Many sites, however, do not abide by the rules they agreed to when they signed up. Here's the real deal on How to Get ODP Data for your site.
09-04-2011, 07:05 AM
drewellis082

DMOZ is not effective at all because they have less number of editors. So if you go for indexing your site in DMOZ, you will never get the proper feedback.
09-04-2011, 01:39 PM
The Old Sarge

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Originally Posted by drewellis082

DMOZ is not effective at all because they have less number of editors. So if you go for indexing your site in DMOZ, you will never get the proper feedback.

DMOZ does not give feedback to anyone except it's own editors. If you'd read the submission guidelines a bit more carefully, you'd know that. You have read them, haven't you?
09-05-2011, 01:54 AM
davidlee052

If you do not attend an editor named but rather check you family editor as "unpaid worker to edit this family" conceive doing just that. The category does n'o have an skilled worker so you'll never become added anyway.
09-05-2011, 01:48 PM
The Old Sarge

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Originally Posted by davidlee052

If you do not attend an editor named but rather check you family editor as "unpaid worker to edit this family" conceive doing just that. The category does n'o have an skilled worker so you'll never become added anyway.

False! Many categories do not have dedicated editors assigned but any editor in that category tree above that level can edit in that category.

(You may want to look into a better translation program/tool. The one you're using leaves a lot to be deisred.)
09-13-2011, 06:13 AM
trevionmaddox23

It is a great thing to get listed on DMOZ. Your site will be considered as a reliable and reputed online business by the search engines.
09-13-2011, 11:08 AM
The Old Sarge

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Originally Posted by trevionmaddox23

It is a great thing to get listed on DMOZ. Your site will be considered as a reliable and reputed online business by the search engines.

And that is something the search engines have chosen to do all on their own. DMOZ has never positioned itself to do anything of the sort and does not claim to benefit webmasters or their sites in any way. Call it an unintended benefit. :)
09-15-2011, 04:40 AM
stephanramies31

Getting a site listed on DMOZ is extremely tough because they don’t have much editors. It’s best to forget about it after submitting.
01-18-2012, 06:33 AM
adamjohnson786

We have failed to get any payment for enlisting your website in DMOZ, as it has not worked well because the SEO methods used here was not proper.
01-18-2012, 06:37 AM
adamjohnson786

I would like to offer information to everyone in this forum about DMOZ, which is actually a directory where you can submit website and earn good income.
01-18-2012, 11:54 PM
albertpinto21

Based from what I have been reading in the internet lately, this DMOZ thing that we are hearing about is another search engine in the online world.

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