Inquiry regarding ClickIncome Program

Hi

I attended the workshop last week-end in London, Novotel Hammersmith, and registered for their executive package. After what I have just read I am absolutly scared of what the future holds working with them. The course was expensive but they sounded so professional and ...honest.

I'd like to hear about other people in London who have signed for their package and like me after a bit of the niggling feeling and some suspicions (they said they would contact us on the Monday after the workshop and it took them a week to do so...) ended up making a search on them and found this forum.
Humm!!!!!!!!!!!! Have we been scammed???????????

I would say YES. There are a million products out there to make money on Ebay and build your own website FOR FREE!!!! And nobody is getting rich doing it. Try and cancel and write your experience with that on here so everyone in England will know.

Hi Frankie and thank you for your reply. I have had now a second phone call with Empwrbigbill and it doesn't sound good at all. The phone call didn't last long because their shark of a salesman put the phone down on me when I categorically refuse to "Upgrade"to their marketing package(help of a mentor, banners, advertising...) which he offered for £ 4,100 something like $ 8,000...The call was not to welcome me or explain what was going to happen next. It was about this marketing package, and this is the only way I can (according to him )start making money. The Executive package I bought last w-e is for the website and the help of the "Techy" as he called him...but after that, YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN AND GOOD LUCK TO YOU. and the phone went dead. Wooo! I was shocked and cruelly reminded that even if I didn't want to believe any of the testimony above...Just because, i needed to stay in denial a bit longer and why not give other people a second chance...I may have a bit of a task ahead of me. So, now??? I'll get in touch with their U.K office (if they ever answer the phone because last week their voice mail was full and not taking any calls). Any body out there in London, who is dealing with Empwronline, please get in touch....and share your experience. Thank you.

PROBLEM - We have paid Clickincome $20,424 and have made one sale in a year. Our garden website (greatgardenstore.com) does not even register with Google or other search engines even after we have spent hours and hours on development.

Problems encountered: 1. The Clickincome warehouse of drop ship items cannot be used. Tech support admitted problems but said they were revamping the catalog. Many items had no descriptions and pictures. 95% of the warehouse items were not suitable for sale or overpriced. If there would be any useable items they were sold in a day or two. I was unable to use any items and paid $100.00 to set-up an account with another warehouse. 2. Clickincome's software and templates are very limited and have too many glitches. We were unable to add more keywords, add or reduce space, bold, or change fonts when needed. I was unable to meet Search Engine Optimization (SEO) requirements to land top positions with Google or other search engines. We were unable to be connected through Clickincome to e-bay with items we sold. Tech support could not help. After weeks I found out that Clickincome did not accept any item over $100.00 - it had to be a two digit number due to their inadequate software. Action Analysis Pro (a $599. value) has never worked. They say my ID number is invalid. 3. Their tech support is inadequate. Many tech people could not solve my problems or gave incorrect information. They never returned a call when a tech message was posted for them on their website. They don't answer the phones during their hours of service and rarely call back when a message is left. 4. Our "advanced mentoring person" rushed us into choosing anything to sell. Later I was told our site was too diverse for a high Search Engine Optimization ranking. That "advanced mentoring person" could not answer Clickincome software problems but referred us to tech support. Most meetings were 10-15 minutes in length - not an hour as promised. One week he failed to call to cancel our appointment. Rarely did he review our site - he had his own agenda.

Yes, they definitely have their own agenda...and one of them is to keep you paying...Since my last posting I have called the U.K office and they are no more than a broker company, dealing with payment basically. They were very nice but said that every complaints should go to the U.S.A as they had nothing to do with it. When I rang their free toll (I hope...) number in U.S, the girl said somebody will call me back and of course three days later they haven't done so. So it means, so far to me, that I have spent few hundreds £ on a course that nobody bothers telling me about, and keep ignoring me because I will not pay them anymore money as i refuse to be scammed further. I am currently looking into legal action and if somebody has any suggestion, please let me know. By the way, a lot of other sites are reporting on their "sharp tactics" (always in the framework of legality but certainly unethical). I just couldn't find any positive statements about them. People who were signing up at the same time as me last week, seem to be going ahead with it and believe the "caca" speech about making a six figure income within a year...YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!! God help you!!!!!!!!! -meet you in a few months down the line after they have got you into paying few more £££££££££££££££ (@ 0%...Aria financial, maybe?) on your credit card and you'll never see any return on it, BUT YOU ARE THE ONE LEFT WITH THE DEBT. Do you want financial freedom or financial slavery?????????????
Maybe I am the only one in U.K having the feeling of having been conned or is the rest of you still fast asleep? Please share your experience, good or bad, about EMPWRONLINE/CLICKINCOM.

I was able to a little research in to their internet registrations.

For those that aren't clear or new people in -

CLICKINCOME IS EMPWRONLINE
EMPWRONLINE IS CLICKINCOME

dont' let them fool you. Although I contacted a new buyer of Empwrbuilder and it isn't the same website builder I have, so they changed that, probably to better fool us old clients. But the customer service is garbage and I haven't found one person in the 30-50 or so I have contacted online that have made a dime. I was even told some of them had to sign a waiver saying they COULDN"T talk about clickincome in order to get some of their money back.. WHAT A BARREL OF CROOKS!

I hope they come back to North Carolina and I hear about it. I will have to whole lot arrested for fraud!!!!

Hi! I just went to a meeting last night in Red Deer, Alberta, Canada! Richard Hoffmann was the speaker for EmPwrOnline. We signed up for a workshop which was only $20. We have tickets to go see Micheal James. Any info you have about these people or this company would be really helpful! Thanks!

Dear Hatcatgirl,
if you read the postings right from the beginning, those are the people that you have seen/going to see...They are the scammers, yet they are probably just being employed by Empweronline/Clickincom...and not self-made millionaires through their business on Ebay, as they are going to convince you that they are. Micheal James is also known as Micheal Symes...Run a search on him and you cannot find any trace (except one Clickincom-poor-website). Yet, he is somebody whose business is the Internet. Those are the people who came to London nearly 2 weeks ago and are operating under the name Empwronline (Clickincom in the U.S.A)...
And yes, I also signed up for a workshop which was only £ 20, just like anybody else reporting on this site ...and for the rest, I am more and more convinced that I made a BIG MISTAKE by getting involved with these people.

By the way, I am still waiting for them to return my phone call...

I was at the London Seminar -- Have we been scammed!!! Yes is the answer. I nearly got scammed again by believing their story about advertisements etc but fortunately for me my bank refused to honour the payment saying the merchant involved is a security risk. That was when I started thinking. I had tried to check them out before the 2nd seminar with Michael James but of course nothing came up - since they have now changed their name from Clikincome to EmpwrOnline so I thought they were credible.

The problem is what do we do now? Anybody out there willing to fight for their money? I am game. They can't go scot free. Also how do we warn other people especially in UK. Do they even have an address? I think they have now exhausted the US and are moving down here asking for bigger amounts than they do in US. Please may I hear your inputs on this if you are one of those people who attended Hammersmith and signed on!! Can we join together and do something? I AM VERY ANGRY!!!!

Hi,
Good to see that people from London are finally reacting on this one. Yes, I am absolutly game to get my money back so please get in touch. As far as warning other people here in the U.K, we just need to keep writing on this site and also get in touch with consumers association. Consumerdirect is part of the office of fair trading and are already warned about them. Watchdog is also a good programme to get in touch with and if you reseach it more on the internet, especially recently there has been some comments written about them on Ripoffreport (one from Canada, where they seem to have been recently and one in the U.K). Newspapers (Metro, Lite...) can also be informed and they'll be delighted to look into it.

I have been happy with Empwronline, so far and found the workshop at the Novetel very helpful. I have used some of the tips i learned at the seminar on ebay and they really help my sales go up. I was frustrated about customer service at first, because of the time zone difference. Once i found out the correct times, they have been helpful. I like that i can call up to midnight and have someone help me over the phone.

I think i got a great value. The business plan empwronline taught at the seminar was sound and they said succes would take time. Using the tips Ilearn about ebay, have increased my sales. It was frustrating at first about the cusomer service, not getting through on the phone. Whne i learn about the time difference they have been very helpful. I am excited about the future.

I attended the London empwr conference and found it very informative.
My ebay sells have increases with the tips I learned at the seminar and I
have found the empwr website very easy to use. The only complaint I have is that it was difficult to get hold of the customer service dept. I didnt realize the calls where taken in the US and there was a time zone factor. When I figure that out, I found the service proffessional, and the hours of operation here in london from 3pm till midnight. I like that better, because I usually do work on the computer at night. I am all SMILES:):):)

I was at the Novatel Hotel in Hammersmith at that Empwronline meeting. I thought it was wonderful information for £ 20. I remember the guy who has posted on this blog from reading his messages LAtisses11, he is a network marketer!!! Wanna talk about scams, they where passing out literature about their company at this paid event, promoting "Finacial Freedom" that how I recognized his post. They where ask to stop, which upset them, it still must make them mad, as you can read, So I would not give his post much credence. I thought the business that was offered that day very exciting. I tested the system that was taught and it seems to work. It did take them a few days to get me properly set up, however that is the only bad thing I have can report.

No,no,no Bellaji, I am not a network marketer wanting to boycot Empwr, well oiled and scripted, sale speech (interesting how much people can make up their own story about others that they don't even know...). Instead, I am a good woman who has paid nearly £2,500 for a service she still hasn't received. And really, whether you think you recognise "me" or not doesn't really bother me...Instead, I am more interested about hearing of the achievements of Empwronline and the website that they are building for you , once it is done please give us the address so we can all check it out...By the way, have they given you websites of satisfied/very satisfied customers, with their websites up and running taking them to "financial freedom".
So did I think that the business that was offered was exciting but I certainly don't want it from them anymore...I am looking for other avenues for "financial freedom" (and here, sorry to disappoint you, but I don't have any product to promote). Wishing you very best of luck but watch out next time they'll offer to teach you how to use your credit card creatively...Next, they will tell you that by the time you have put their next "upgrade" course on your credit card, you won't even have to pay for it because you will have made some many sales that the course will pay by itself...and by the sound of it, you'll will fall for it untill like, NJW (and many others), you realised that it was only a good sales man speech that they have given you...This is the reason why their £20 seminars feel like a million dollar to you, so they get you ready for the bigger numbers...This is where I didn't see it coming, and my radars were off that day (Damn it!!!!!!!!!!!!).
And by the way, have you read from page 1 to 10 of this forum? How many people report, I am talking about the ones who have been dealing with them for a solid amount of time, doing fantastic business with Empwronline/Clickincome? And why as a company they have changed their names to operate in U.K and Canada?Surely, they would want to do busyness banking on their successful brand name... Wouldn't you?? ClickIncomeInternational??? for example... Why is Micheal Symes, called Micheal James here in U.K? ...How many of their reports are positive,anywhere on the Internet, apart from yours and bidgl, who seems to take a very, very,very... long time working out a simple 7 hours time difference.